update oral pathology report…histiocytic vs Hemangiosarcoma
Neither one is good.
well the pathology report is in…Nekas oral mass is malignant neoplasia with mitotic count 22 per 10 high pwr fields…not clean.. which we really already suspected because he just took off the surface mass….
Officially is an Anaplastic sarcoma either a histiocytic or Hemangiosarcoma of unknown origin… so I can have the sample sent for added testing of a Immunohistochemical antigen testing for markers to know more about it and possible ways to treat it.. problem is no clean margins and what would it take for clean margins and can she handle it with all other things going on, I know the specialty center can definitely attack it and clean it out but most likely invasive but sometimes I feel like approach can get stuck in protocols vs maybe non conventional approach. idk dammit dammit… If i leave it, it could take over very quickly, I remove it could involve teeth and alot of digging…uug
here some pics of what this little sucker looks like, so urge all guardians to take a peak inside your pooches/cats mouth regularly. I brush her teeth weekly and I still missed it. Just like you check their body, sweep the mouth too, use your phone flashlight while they are panting if you hadn’t conditioned your dog to look inside, and remember for your next pup to condition them to mouth work.
Some of the before pics look more red than others, this is correct, it got more inflamed as time passed..only 5 days
Before biopsy
After biopsy removal and CO2 laser to do flush it to palate… no full marginal excision
March 1st, 2016 at 7:13 pm
🙁 I am so so sorry. Not like she doesn’t have enough going on. Sometimes this damn disease just needs to stop. Prayers for the guidance to know what to do
hugs
Michelle & Angel Sassy
March 1st, 2016 at 10:25 pm
Gosh! I would not have been nearly as diligent checking in their mouths had it not been for your post! That Neka sure is teaching us a lot…on soooo many levels!! Probably, if I had seen something like that, I would jave dismissed it as an infected tooth.
I shake my head in disbelief at what this piece of crap disease keeps trying to throw your way. I also shake my head in disbelief how you and Neka continue to stay super strong and deflect everything coming your way!!
I have zero insight into this particular hurdle that has come up. The “solution ” does not sound like a an easy one, or one with any guarantees. On top of all that, you are dealing with an older dog with other challenges that anesthesia and more suregery, more recovery time…geez…my heart goes out to you!
I know you will do your research and I know you will check out all the holistic/alternative options. I also know, without a doubt, you will put the best interest of Neka to the forefront of every decision…you always have, you always will. I know something so invasive at this point is not anything you should have to even be thinking about dealing with.
Everyone has their own “line in the sand”. At least we think we do. I wonder what Neka’s “line in the sand” is? Has she drawn it?
Sending you love and hugs and more love
Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!
March 6th, 2016 at 9:14 pm
hey dont use the word…”older”!!…lol… kidding.
I know I was finally at ease with things that are going on “inside” her that I cant control and its about comfort and joy for her. but an oral thing that could inevitably interfere with comfort yet the rest of her is like Im good, still hopping, still eating, pooping peeing , greeting.. all normal neka things, so Its like I cant let an oral thing interfere if the rest of her is ok, ugg, but then the invasiveness..uug.. why can it just be the one thing.. the moment your accepting, your reminded, naaw.. im going to make you feel more like shit and have to decide more crappier decisions..
March 1st, 2016 at 11:17 pm
Dangit, I’m sorry! Neka’s like “Oh Mom, you’re worried about me again, aren’t you?”
Well we all are. And we can only stand here and offer virtual hugs. I hope you can feel them.
OK, what about a consult with Dr. Charles Loops on this? A good holistic, do-no-harm holistic approach could go very far, it’s worked for so many dogs here.
What do you think?
xoxoxoxo {{{{hugs}}}
March 6th, 2016 at 9:09 pm
yes plan on checking him out too. this sucker seem to be growing fast and I know holistic takes time to build in their system. but thank you for reminding me of him.